Leading Democrats Side With Obama in Gas Tax Dispute
Nick Timiraos reports from Munster, Ind., on the presidential race.

Hillary Clinton said on Thursday night that members of Congress should tell the American people where they stand on a plan she backs to suspend the gas tax for three months. “Are they with us or against us?” she said.
But that bit of bombast may backfire. On Friday, one of Sen. Clinton’s top backers, Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank, called the gas-tax holiday a “bad idea.”
“I think it would be counterproductive,” Frank said in an interview to air today on Bloomberg Television. “I don’t think it would be a significant savings for the individual. It would be more of a cost.”
Add Frank to the growing list of pols who have rejected the idea, including Clinton supporter and Washington Sen. Patty Murray. Others include House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, New York Gov. David Paterson and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who was particularly blunt on Thursday.
“It’s about the dumbest thing I’ve heard in an awful long time, from an economic point of view,” Bloomberg, who hasn’t endorsed a candidate, told reporters. “We’re trying to discourage people from driving and we’re trying to end our energy dependence…and we’re trying to have more money to build infrastructure.”
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The gas-tax issue has flared up ahead of Tuesday’s primaries in Indiana and North Carolina, weeks after likely Republican nominee John McCain first floated the tax-holiday proposal. On Thursday, McCain defended the measure as one that would provide “a little relief” to motorists, and he used that phrase six times in less than two minutes in defending his proposal.
Obama has broken with his Senate colleagues in opposing the measure, a move which opens him up to charges from his political opponents despite the fact that the gas-tax holiday has been roundly criticized by economists and editorial boards.
At a press conference on Friday, Obama pointed out the growing list of politicians who have derided the tax holiday, which would save consumers little while depleting the federal highway trust fund. “It turns out that people…don’t want to be for something that is such an obvious election year gimmick,” Obama said.
Clinton has proposed to make up those lost revenues by taxing oil companies, but it’s not clear that oil companies wouldn’t pass on those higher taxes to consumers. “We ought to say: Wait a minute, we’d rather have the oil companies pay the gas tax than the drivers of North Carolina,” Clinton countered today at a stop in Hendersonville, N.C.
The Obama campaign has sought to focus on the gas tax debate—an issue of rare policy disagreement among the presidential contenders—as the Illinois senator tries to focus attention away from the recent wave of negative publicity brought on by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. “Obviously we’ve had to fight through over the last week an awful lot of noise,” Obama told reporters.
He has also talked up his biography more on the campaign trail to dispel criticisms that he’s out of touch. “One of the ironies of the last two or three weeks was this idea that Michelle and I were somehow elitist pointy headed intellectual types,” he said on Friday. “Our lives if you look back over the last two decades more closely approximate the lives of the average voter than any of the other candidates.”
Wait a minute…is someone speaking about an actual issue that is of legitimate concern here? Has someone alerted Obama that this is not how elections are run?
The gas tax holiday proposal is the most inane idea yet.
If the American people fall for the same old political pander now, nobody will be able to help us, even ourselves.
My vote is for Senator Obama.
White, 48, Male, Married, Professional, Business Owner
If the Libs and there supporters are against decreasing the gas tax and they are against drilling anywhere else for oil, the only option is to pay whatever prices the market will bear. I don’t have a problem with paying whatever price gas is, but I don’t want to hear Lib supporters crying about gas prices in the short term when there is nothing on the table from the left on how to reduce prices.
like “the left” all thinks alike
Who needs satire when you have politics? It’s a bad idea all around.
B Moore - www.autosavant.net
To Deward Bowles: My vote is for John McCain. White, 51, Married, Attorney, Catholic, Republican Party member since 1974. I respect your choice, Deward; I’m sure your preference goes beyond Obama’s [correct] position on the gas tax holiday. I do note that the only demographic factor that does not affect my vote is skin color, which is totally irrelevant. I’ll vote for Bobby Jindal, Mel Martinez, or Colin Powell on any given day. I have yet to find the Democratic presidential candidate since 1974 that I would vote for with one proviso: I flipped a coin over Bush versus Kerry at the actual voting booth because I found neither candidate appealing. Republican loyalties can only take you so far. Have a great weekend, Deward.
How many remember how radical it was for presidential candidate John Anderson to advocate a $.50 per gallon tax in 1984? The horse left that barn decades ago. To have any impact on consumption in the US, a huge tax is necessary, probably in the $3-5 per gallon range in today’s dollars. None of these candidates have the huevos to do what is necessary to stop our addiction to oil. It is all smoke and mirrors, whether it is MCain saying yes/no, Hillary or Obama saying yes/no. My vote goes to McCain simply because he is without question the strongest candidate on our national security. Whether we like it or not, the fact is that without security from those who wish us harm, nothing else matters. You can be healthy, wealthy, and wise, yet just one “unsecure” event that causes your life to end makes all the rest pointless. That is what is at stake this year and most likely many years to come.
Excellent observation. I truly hope the voters see through this pandering on the part of Clinton and McCain.
National Security - what exactly does that mean? I refuse to live my life in fear. Terrorism is not a military fight and until we accept that and try to fight with diplomacy fear will continue to dominate our society and the only winners are the terrorist. I guess we will be safe, but living on welfare. I wish we were as consumed with our Domestic Policies as we are with the Foreign ones.
Pandering on taxes and the economy is how George Bush helped create the current mess. Now Clinton/McCain are following the same program. With the tax removed, pump prices will rise to meet demand and/or consumption will increase, depleting reserves and ultimately raising the price of energy for electricity, home heating, industrial fuel and other purposes. Would also raise the price of ethanol, starving more children in developing countries. Obama has hit the bull’s eye.
The central issue is that security cannot be found unless there is justice in the world. There is no justice when market forces are allowed to run roughshod over developing economies, and distract politicians in wealthy countries from issues that matter more. Terrorism wouldn’t be a factor if the US had sane trade policies and a sizeable foreign affairs budget. I vote Obama.
Check out “The Truth vs Barack Obama”
http://savagepolitics.com/?p=317
I saw this today, and HAD to share it with everyone. It is just a brilliantly researched and written list of inconsistencies with several of Obama’s stories. I think it should be done for ALL three candidates, but I guess this is a good way to start at finally looking at the candidates with some honesty.
I think it’s funny that Obama thinks a windfall profits tax (remember that profits are money that the company has EARNED through operations) will punish oil companies. It will actually punish consumers by raising prices, as the oil companies will pass this anticipated cost onto the consumers.
Americans need to start thinking of energy/gas/oil as a strategic asset, no different than a strong military defense. Energy will be the arms race of the future. Time to start establishing incentives (read: taxes) for alternative sources. Alaska is nothing more than plugging the proverbial finger in the dike. Get used to higher energy costs, smaller houses, smaller cars and denser living. What made us believe we were imune to the very forces that drove human settlement over the previous thousands of years?
God forbid we actually have a tax cut. The Democrats really are nimnods.
“I do note that the only demographic factor that does not affect my vote is skin color, which is totally irrelevant.”
If it is totally irrelevant, Tampa Dave, why do you keep mentioning it?
Dr Man, “the Libs and there (sic) supporters” have been offering other options for years. You seem to be fixated on one simple alternative: ruining the environment in the search for more fossil fuels.
Here are some of the “Libs’”other ideas…
Jimmy Carter passed tax credits for solar and put solar panels up on the White House; the genius Reagan dismantled the panels and allowed the solar initiatives to lapse. As a result, dozens of countries have more advanced alternative energy technologies than the US today. Israel, Spain, Germany, South Africa, to name a few.
One of the first bills Obama introduced in the Senate was to compel the auto manufacturers to raise fuel efficiency standards. This is the industry that said seat belts were a socialist plot. The industry that killed the electric car. They need to be dragged into the 21st century.
The nation’s top Democrats are suddenly rushing to appear on the Fox News Channel, which they once had shunned as enemy territory as the nemesis of liberal bloggers. The détente with Fox has provoked a backlash from progressive bloggers, who contend the party’s leaders are turning their backs on the base — and lending credibility and legitimacy to the network liberals love to hate — in a quest for a few swing votes. In a span of eight days, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY.) and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean are all taking their seats with the network that calls itself “fair and balanced” but is widely viewed as skewing conservative…….So, the Democratic Loser Party is finally attempting to reach a decent audience that represents most of America. Lets hope viewers see them for what they really are: pandering socialist Marxists. Especially Obama and Dean. Hillary is more Stalinist than anything.
Leading Democrats have no idea how we live. Must be nice to be rich and be a Democrat. To drive a 12-mile per gallon luxury auto and then tell the rest of us we have to conserve.
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I am too poor to vote Democrat. . .
Freedom from fear - I mentioned it because Deward made a point of identifying his skin color in his biographical sketch. I drew attention to it simply to advise Deward that race - his or Obama’s - should be an insignificant factor in candidate selection. That’s all. Why do you liberals insist on bringing up negative racial connotations when someone indicates they are not supporting Obama, the least qualified candidate of either party? I don’t like Obama because he is a typical Democratic tax and spend liberal. Period. God, I can’t stand liberals.
I cannot stand Obama. With respect to Wright, he was a duoe because he never directly listened to, or heard indirectly, about Wright’s sermons. Or, the alternative is that Obama actually knew about the sermons and is lying about his knowledge. There is no other choice. I believe the latter option because no one, absolutely no one, can attend a church for twenty years without knowledge of such vitriolic demagoguery. Liberals don’t care, however. Just as long as you can slip your socialist candidate Obama into office, his ethics. right?
Hillary lost Iowa becuase she pomposely arrived in Helicopters spending all the supporters money. The campaign is broke - and she wants to be President!
It seems all the uneducated blue collar people are voting for her because they do not do any research or are not aware of the facts favouring Archie Bunker reruns intead of a good book.
The politics of fear and hate are dead, some just don’t know it yet.
If how a campaign is run is any indication as to how the candidate will run the country there is only one clear choice.
It is time for all Americans to stand up and do something about the nightmare that politics have become over the last 30 years.
Hope is the thing with feathers that asks not a crumb from me. Change however is an effort and that which we fear.
Now is the time to stand up for Senator Obama.
It seems to convenient to keep raking Obama over the coals for the Wright fiasco. I only call it a fiasco because the sanctimonious tone that anti-Obama forces use when referencing it. Obama disavowed and repudiated the remarks and then when the man made a fool out of himself, he repudiated the man. But that’s not enough. We have ll of this rancor to infer what the future judgment of Obama might be no matter what the man has already said would be his future judgment. Meanwhile we get a whiff of what future judgments Hillary would make. She would advocate a plan that has been universally condemned as reckless, ineffective, and insulting. But because a few uninformed souls might vote her may, she has seen fit not only to continue to advocate this Gas Tax Holiday but to draw on her inner Willie Starr, and challenge voters to join her in ignorance. And this present day lapse in sanity passes as leadership to Clinton supporters? On another front, John McCain trained his proverbial M-16 on his proverbial foot and fired off the proclamation that we should become energy independent so that we never have to send our sons and daughters to fight [for]it again. So its official. We are actually over fighting for Iraqi oil. Glad you cleared that for me, John. I mean I thought it was to eliminate terrorist threat or to bring democracy to the region or even to act as a deterrent to any expansionist activities from some like maybe…. Iran.
But now we know. It was for the oil. So as I have said before Tampa Dave, you need to keep this guy under lock and key. Like Rev Wright. He’s the gift that keeps on giving.
and Hillary says she’s ready on day one, when she can’t even come up with her own ideals/issues. She’s followed behind Barack in Penn. going out drinking (taking shots like she’s use to it,mmmm?) Now she have even sided with McSane with this gas holiday (like she did when she voted for the war in Iraq). I think HIllary should change her party to Republican I really think she wants to be a two-faced, lying republican. (her and Bill have more than enough of money) but call Barack out of touch (McSane words, again). Hillary GO HOME!
What kind of ideas has Barack Obama come up with for the high gas prices? The answer is; none. One has to doubt if he knows where the senate chambers are. Has he even been there since he was elected four years ago? He can criticize Clinton and McCain all he wants, but until he can gave a better plan………its meaningless.
help us
Obama is all rhetoric, Deward. He has no experience in national politics outside two years Senate experience plus one year running for the presidency. He was an average state legislator and local community organizer before that. Given that dearth of experience, Obama has no ability, experience, or sufficient familiarity with national politics to reverse the angst surrounding America’s political scene. Obama never crosses the aisle, unlike Clinton and McCain. Obama is a pure partisan leftist Democrat who promises to unite Republicans and Democrats whose past record amply demonstrates that his words are empty rhetoric. His recent negativity shows he is a mortal politician, a traditional tax and spend liberal, disguising himself as the new Messiah of politics. While I think George Bush rates among the worst Republican presidents in history, this guy Obama poses a bigger risk to America than the Democratic buffoon Jimmy Carter.
7:35-I;d rather a leader be silent than to come up with a totally insane idea. Imagine if W had been silent instead of deciding we had to take down Saddam Hussein. We wouldn’t have spent a trillion dollars which would have strengthened the currency and lowered oil prices. There is probably at least a 20% markup on oil due to currency translation. So instead of complaining about 4.00 gas, we would be complaining about 3.00 gas. Oh yea, and 4000 people might be walking around and countless numbers of horrifically injured would have been uninjured. It’s like the movie “War Games”, where the WOPR computer finally figured out that the best solution was not “playing at all”. It seems that the conclusion that you Clinton/McCain supporters have come to is that a stupid idea is better than no idea at all. I beg to differ. And how you can say that Obama is a bigger risk than Clinton who threatens Iran with annihilation as we speak and McCain who is in love with another 100 years war, is a leap of logic that I’ll never understand. This race shouldn’t be close. You have a candidate who told a bold face lie to the public and now is openly pandering to the populous. The other makes gaffe after gaffe in his speeches. And your only explanation is the guy that makes sense is full of empty rhetoric and the other two guys idiotic proposals somehow have substance? Come on. McCain and Hiilary have practically turned themselves into buffoons to demonstrate that a segment of the population would rather have a buffoon than an African American. Let’s pray that the rest of us outnumber them.
Nice job Obama… BOOOOUUUU!
Senator Obama is making a mistake in opposing the Federal gas tax holiday. Sure it will really not save that much. But does he want to be in the same boat as NYC Mayor Bloomberg (who flies his private jet everywhere as he tells the NYPD to issue more and more traffic and parking tickets to raise revenue) or NYS Governor Patterson (who had the State pay for his girlfriends’ hotel bills).
Obama should just say, “Put the gas tax holiday to a vote in Congress.” That vote will not occur, Congress will be shutting down by Memorial Day for the conventions and the congressional elections.
How can Clinton govern effectively in the white house when members of her own party in Congress don’t even agree with her?! It’s considered great fortune to have the same party controlling both those branches of government, but how thoroughly rotten does one have to be to squander that and fight with your own party? Clear evidence that she isn’t fit for the white house…
{too bad, too, for Hugo Chavez who seems to be throwing his voice through her}
Obama uncertainty and inconsistency on issues ranging from war to taxes reveal his enexperience and youthful stumbling, two qualities that make him unprepared to be president.
Economics 101
It is preposterous to suggest that the gas tax holiday will lower fuel costs, much less to suggest that such a bill could ever make it in to law by the end of the summer.
It amounts to a massive money give away to big oil and will result in even higher fuel costs. Obama has advocated ceasing oil purchases to fill the strategic reserve and releasing oil from that reserve. This would drive the price down at the pump as much as 50 cents a gallon or more eventually. All the other commodities will follow suit when some of the air is let out of the oil bubble.
A windfall profits tax on oil companies if imposed should be used for renewable green energy research. Clinton has suggested this as well, the problem is she is using the same money twice to pay for her supposed gas tax holiday.
A windfall profits tax will ultimately be passed on to the consumer and this is a fact. The only issue there is how you use the money. For a short term money give away to the oil companies or research and development of alternative energy sources.
McBillary says it all!
All of you miss the point about taxing energy. Tax imported crude, slap a 40% surcharge on it, raise the value of domestic energy, bring the international oil companies here, open up the east coast, florida, alaska and shale gas everywhere for development. Provide credits for equipment companies, tubing companies, frac sand mines, etc to expand production to meet the needs of the domestic industry.
At the same time the increase in crude costs will force conservation, give it a few years and we will actually get some where. There is not one candidate that is being honest about the energy crises.
I read so many comments that race don’t matter, if truly race is no issue Barack Obama is the only choice.The same ones that say race don’t matter voted for Bush twice. You surely have blood on your hands. The world is watching we elected one dumb-ass, with only one clear choice for president, a liar, a old goat, and a articulate statesman America the ball is in your court. OBAMA 08
The politicians use our ignorance to keep us all opposed to sane ideas ,Freedom requires knowledge and responsiblity. Hilliary does well un-educated people (dumb)You can be dumb and make one (1) intelligent decision in your life OBAMA 08
Humm, Hillary does well with blue collar workers, who I have worked with all of my life. In spite of having an Ivy League masters I have always found “blue collar” workers to have a tremendous understanding of what is right and what is wrong. What is wrong with the Democrats is an inexperienced arrogant opportunist called Obama.
Last time I looked, we have a terrible history for going to war on non-principals, and slinking out of that poor country with tarnished reputations as “bullies” who, despite zillions of dollars, in reality lost the war in effect (Vietnam, Korea, Current war, etc,etc) more global hatred against us, and while we play at war, and also die playing, countries like China and India attempts to by-pass us in economical growth,taking all the production and jobs from us, truly embitters people who lost their jobs…And you all are so scared, you want to vote for McCain again, or so euphoric, you want to vote for Obama? Give me, rather, Hillory, who will run this country like a housewife, same as Maggie Thatcher, maybe not likeable to every single person in this country, but look at Maggie’s legacy..Eat your heart out, McPain and Nobama!!
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